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The herpes talk

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Oh, hey. So, all right. So, let's see. What are we talking about? Herpes and disclosure. Herpes and telling people that you're going to be intimate with hopefully. So, I've seen both of the extremes. One extreme uh is that you tell them too early. Um, or maybe [snorts] I'll do it on this side so that you can see it starting on a continuum. Beginning too early. Maybe first date. Maybe you're um, you know, in the middle of dinner and you're having lasagna and you're like, "Hey, I love this lasagna. I have herpes." Might not be the best time to do that. They don't really know you. They know you like lasagna and they know you have herpes. They don't really know you. So that's too early, right? That's that's at the very beginning. Then there's the opposite side on the other hand that you tell them too late. Maybe you already have five kids with them and you're retiring together and you say, "Oh, by the way, I haven't told you this for the last 30 years of marriage. ...

... Um, I may have given you herpes. Uh, you know, I'm sorry. Whoops. Slipped my mind. A person might feel a little manipulated, a little uh like there was something withheld from the communication. They might hold that against you. I probably would in that in that situation, too. Well, where's the happy medium? I may have been a little bit hyperbolic there. I may have exaggerated it a little bit, but you get the idea. Too early person doesn't know you enough. They don't know you as a person. And that is what's most important in this. Too late. They know you as a person and they love you for it. But then for some reason, you felt the need to withhold this piece as if it was going to be a deal breakaker. And ironically enough, it probably becomes a deal breakaker at that point because that represents dishonesty. So the happy medium there is to actually have the disclosure of herpes be a connecting experience. Now this doesn't necessarily mean that every time you tell a potential partner in this way that they're just going to, you know, all all the all the risk and all the negative uh notions that people might have about herpes are going to wash away. ...

... No, but there is the better potential for building a strong relationship based on herpes. It's it sounds sounds backwards, but it's it's true. Think about so many there are so many relationships nowadays, herpes are not that don't have a strong honest connection as their foundation. Here's an here's an opportunity to have a strong foundation right off the bat of a relationship. Maybe not on the first date, but once you start getting to know each other, this is one of those things to share from your heart and share from the core of your being and and and handing it to them and saying, "Hey, I have herpes." might not say it right off the bat like this. Let let me let me go ahead and just kind of throw it out there of, you know, how how I might say it. And of course, you can say it however it resonates with you, but this is kind of the idea of it. Say that, you know, I'm getting to know someone and I want to I want to I want to I want to disclose to them. ...

... Well, at this point, I know first of all that they're someone that I want to go deeper with. I want to have a connection with. So, we might be talking one night and I say, you know, I I really I really feel a connection to you and I can really I I can see this connection and feel it. And with people I feel a connection to, I think it's really important that we're authentic with each other and that we're transparent and that we share with each other. And with that said, there's something that I want to share with you. I want to I want to give you some some information that's that's private to me and it and you mean enough to me to share it to you and to disclose this. So I wanted to let you know that I have herpes and I want to know what you feel about that. Like what are your thoughts about that? You see? So, and scene curtain is closed. ...

... Okay. So, you see how see how I did that? That's very different from how I've heard a lot of um a lot of disclosures being done. It's it comes from a place of of lack or from a place of shame like oh god uh this is going to totally be a deal breakaker they're going to reject me and so it comes from a place of fear and it's like might go something like this like okay so I I I need to let you know something it's it it's there's this problem that I need to need to let you Oh. Oh, God. Um. All right. So, I I hope this doesn't hurt our relationship. I I hope that this is Oh, God. This is so difficult. Um, all right. I'm just going to say it. Uh, I have I have herpes. And then they look to see if the person's still there. See if they didn't run out the door. ...

... I've I've been there. I've I've [snorts] I've had that that kind of a discussion and yeah, they did they did run away. It's kind of it's kind of because I expected them to run away. Like I in a way I wanted them to run away because I wasn't secure enough in myself to have herpes and and disclose it from a strong place. So it is a lot like well you're coming from a strong place. You're coming from a a place of confidence and also from a place of caring about the person that you're disclosing to. You care enough to tell them something that's really really difficult for a lot of people to do. I think that is a great indicator of something really deep in your core as a person. That says a whole lot about what it means to be in relationship with you. If I am willing to to to sh to to share something so private with somebody uh even somebody that I don't even know really well but I know enough to know that I want to get to know them better. ...

... I'm sharing this with them and to see to a song came up that okay this is better. Okay. Sorry about that. Um I'm sharing something with them that's difficult for a lot of people to share. So it's telling them, it's transmitting to them that all of the things that are necessary when a relationship is just getting started. The the trust, the care, the honesty, all of this foundational stuff, you know, strength in in myself regardless of whether I have herpes or or whatever. Strength in myself and confidence. Those are the building blocks to any good relationship. So, so yeah, of course it's not going to always be something where you you disclose in this honest and and and caring yet strong way. And and people are always going to say, "All right, let's be in a relationship." To some people it it may still be a deal breakaker, but as long as as long as we as the people with herpes giving the disclosure, as long as it's it's it's clear on our side and we're not mucking it up by being shameful around the fact that we have herpes. ...

... We're mucking it up because we feel like it is a deal breaker and we're just waiting for them to reject us.

A few pervasive questions come up around the herpes talk:

  • When do you have the herpes talk? If you disclose too early, you basically self-sabotage; disclose too late and you're being manipulative and hiding.
  • How do you disclose? From a place of connection and vulnerability, not from a shame-soaked, "I'm-worthless-and-you-know-it" place.

Enjoy this off-the-cuff riff that answers these questions and will give you some examples to help shift you into the Opportunity mindset.

(Fun fact: This is the first long-form riff video I ever recorded years ago, which then blossomed into what later became the Herpes Opportunity. Still diggin' those double pirate hoop earrings!)

For more details on how to have "The Herpes Talk" from the Opportunity perspective, check out the free e-book & informational handouts.

Does it have to be so dreaded?

I’ve heard it talked about as “the dreaded herpes talk” but it doesn’t have to be so dreaded. Unless you make it dreaded, of course; it’s your decision. It really comes down to your own perception on what “the talk” is all about. If you convince yourself that the talk is bound to end in rejection, it’ll have that flavor; on the other hand, if you go into the talk dedicated to trust and authenticity, you can’t go wrong. This doesn’t necessarily mean that all the talks will end in flowers, rainbows and unicorns, but your personal values shine brightly. And the herpes talk actually has quite a good chance of bringing you closer together in the process. So a lot of it comes down to how you perceive the talk. Is it a dreaded rejection-maker or is it an opportunity to go deeper into relationship showing trust, authenticity and vulnerability?

One of the banes of herpes-havers isn’t necessarily that they have herpes. No, it’s that eventually they will have to tell a partner “Babe, I have herpes.” So when should you disclose that you have herpes? There’s the classic catch between disclosing too early or too late … if you disclose too early, there don’t even know you enough to make an informed decision; on the other hand, if you disclose too late into a relationship, they might feel manipulated into falling for you without this vital piece of information.

So that’s the catch. And here’s the solution.

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I’ll make it sound super easy so you can apply it with super easy expectations. Deal? Disclose to your partner when you feel like you can trust them with your vulnerability. Disclose when you can authentically say something like this:

“I feel we’re developing a special closeness and trust. I'm really digging it. A big part of closeness to me means being authentic and vulnerable with each other. It’s super important to me that I tell you something that is pretty private to me. I have herpes. What do you know about it?”

Say it from a place of strength, not shame, because you are stronger than many to even consider bringing it up. It is something to be proud of. It’s an act of humanity and integrity. You have set yourself apart from many who choose to go into denial and/or not even disclose. Being transparent in a self-accepting way is confident, sexy and ultimately connecting.

Use this conversation not as a possible reason for disconnection, but maybe even a way to kick a relationship off with a solid foundation: with vulnerability and authenticity. And here’s something to try on: how about go into having the talk with some excitement? After all, the very fact that you’re having the talk signals that you care about this person enough to be truly vulnerable with them, to trust them with something very private about yourself. Just the fact that you’re willing to disclose to them says a lot about the potential you feel is in the relationship.

Like many of you, I was devastated and honestly, never worried about the disclosure conversation because I decided to never have sex or date or be in love again. I stayed in this place for two years, ashamed and alone.
MplsMan, from My first herpes disclosure: A success story! (community conversation)

But what about rejection?

Your experience of rejection starts in your head. What I mean by that is it is only rejection if your sexual identity is negatively tied to herpes. In disclosing, you are simply doing your part to be authentic with them, which is what any good relationship is built upon. Granted, disclosing in this way isn’t a magic pill to get everyone to say yes to relationship; there are still perfectly decent people who would rather not risk getting an STD. If so, don’t fault them for it. Understand that people have preferences. To some, yes, STDs are deal-breakers; to others it’s just an inherent risk that comes with all sexual activity (just like potential pregnancy!). To some, a low credit score or bad debt would be a deal-breaker, or having kids … to others, someone who is a risk-taker or eats with their mouth open is the ultimate deal-breaker … The point is, everyone has that checklist they run through when sizing up potential dates. To many people, the deep values inherent in disclosing that you have herpes will overshadow the negatives of the herpes itself. Be open to that being true for you and you'll disclose from more of a place of clarity and openness.

The 2 parts to the herpes talk

We as the herpes community have two parts to disclosing that we have herpes to potential partners. After we feel the time is right to disclose, the next part is how we disclose. Half of the disclosure we have complete control over. The other half we don’t.

Part 1: We say it

First, we disclose "I have herpes" (when the time is right and we trust this person with our vulnerability). How we disclose (how we say it, where it’s coming from, our own judgments about herpes, how we feel about ourselves with herpes, etc.) becomes paramount; it’s more important than the actual words we use. (Remember the idea that most of communication is nonverbal?) This is the part we have complete control over: how we disclose.

When we disclose, we aren’t only saying the words but also transmitting the emotions, feelings and judgments along with the words. Words are containers of feelings. If we feel utterly ashamed, it doesn’t matter which words we say, those words will feel shameful. So where are you with your own beliefs around herpes? Because those beliefs will be communicated whether you try to or not. (The free ebook on the herpes talk will help you dial in how to disclose.)

Part 2: They hear it

How the other person will react is on them. We have no control over that. There is a lot that goes into how someone will respond when you tell them that you have herpes, no matter how cleanly and clearly you communicate it to them. Many factors come into play just under the surface: Their own views on herpes, their priorities in relationships, their own judgments, etc. will color how they see your disclosure. Most of this has nothing whatsoever to do with you as a person. It’s simply their own relationship, assumptions and beliefs regarding this thing called herpes. (Now, if the relationship wasn't a good fit to begin with, it can also help to filter out those who weren't supposed to be in your life anyway.)

The preference

Most of us in the herpes community put so much weight into disclosing. Which is understandable, of course. It represents a very deep vulnerability that might be rejected. But ultimately, to accept or reject the risk of getting herpes is simply based on the other person's preference. Everyone has preferences surrounding who they choose to be in relationship with. (You do, too.) Some people would rather not date someone who is overweight/underweight, someone who smokes, someone who is messy, someone who has a crazy family, someone who has pets, or someone who has herpes (while other people are perfectly happy with any or all of these preferences for many different reasons). This simple re-frame takes all the sting out of it being such a personal thing and puts it into a more realistic perspective. To some people, herpes is not even on their radar screen; to others, it’s a deal-breaker. But ultimately, success about being accepted or rejected; it's about you growing your courage and integrity, regardless of the outcome of the talk.

Disclosure and shame

Scenario: You meet someone. You really like this someone. Definite connection. Definite mojo. The time for the herpes talk is here. What is this time like for you? What feelings come up? Fear? Shame? Guilt? Avoidance? Those are all common reactions, but let’s dig deeper as to why these might be showing up …

Are disclosing and shame inextricably linked?

It seems that the disclosure itself brings up a lot of feelings of shame. But what is it that you’re actually ashamed of? Is it the shame of revealing your imperfections, the shame of herpes stigma? What else does herpes disclosure mean to you? Does it mean that you’re “admitting” to something that is embarrassing, dirty, stigmatizing? Has the act of disclosing become synonymous with the stigma of herpes itself?

Time for the reframe: Another take on disclosure

Try looking through a different pair of glasses. Here, try these on for fit: The disclosure itself is the beautiful part. How is it beautiful, you ask? Because it’s you in your vulnerability, your rawness, your humanity; it’s not the herpes, not the stigma. Don’t lump those together. You haven’t magically become the herpes itself. Disclosure is you acting on and showing your deeper qualities, which might just shed some much-needed light on the dark herpes shadow. Disclosing is declaring “I care. I want to be honest, authentic, open with you. I trust you.” If you’ve convinced yourself that herpes is the poison, then disclosure is the antidote. If herpes is the lie about you, then disclosure is the truth about you. If herpes is the part you don’t have control over, disclosure is the part you do. Disclosure takes your power back and shows your true colors.

If you feel ashamed when disclosing, ask yourself … “Am I ashamed of my honesty? Am I ashamed of my courage, my integrity, my authenticity, my strength, my belief in building a trusting foundation for a relationship?” There’s no shame in who you are (reminder #2: you aren't herpes). And the right person for you will most certainly recognize that ... and in turn, recognize You.

Not always easy, but always worth it

The possible responses from disclosing are varied, from outright rejection and wild judgment to unconditional acceptance and angels singing your courage and honesty – and everything in between. There are so many factors that go into a person’s beliefs around herpes (what Oprah says, what their parents and friends have said, the Old Testament, knowledge or lack thereof, Valtrex commercials, the list goes on and on). That’s why it’s helpful to remind yourself that there are two parts of a herpes disclosure: you and the other person. Your half you have control over; their half you don’t. And the more you can be cool with that fact (flex that serenity muscle!), the more you can accept whatever comes out of it. Disclosure isn’t always easy, but it’s an opportunity to flex those muscles of who you are becoming, who you truly are.

Consider this as an alternate definition of “courage.” Courage is feeling the fear, but allowing your integrity to lead.

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